Posted by Erol Abit on March 01, 1999 at 08:20:39:
Dear Jerry and All,
[I might not be able to follow this discussion because of my English, the philosophical and technical terms used due to the character of the topic and Jerry's American accent. You might have covered what I am saying now. If so, I apologize in advance.]
I think that particularly by means of the rugs and the webs where visual esthetic is among the most important criteria, the science and technology (leaded by the westerners in the last centuries) and the art, I imply the rug here, (leaded by the easterners more in the last c) are being Hand in Hand. This progress would be much faster if the people give the credits to the creators of real science and real art instead of supporting tasteless quick profits.
1. Yes Jerry. I think one can be succesful to create a desired rug (also other things) ordered by a house decorator or by person via computer communications. Such rugs which will be made by a group study may even be quite artistic rugs. But the reailty says that The main obstacle in reaching such goals is that people who can do such things have not sufficient economical powers and those poor people live in fact in the future. We do not know what will be our profit at the end if we attempt to do such things and become successful. But I know what we will loose if we pass such oppurtinities. The quick profit makers will come into the field and they will take the profits again and again.
2. The more rug we see The better deal we do. Isn't it? Ok Steve, priory touching the hands to the rugs is not possible on the web but doesn't the web help deciding you where to touch? For example, you have seen a new hereke rug (sample on my page) and if you liked it, we can meet and you can buy it without wasting the time that you would probably spend to search if there is such rug or not. (No I am not selling it because it is not mine and I don't know if it is sold or not now. I gave it just as an example.) Or I can do the same for one of your rug and buy if you sell after an initial process of seeing on the web.
3. I learned a lot (Then I understood I know nothing as Sam says) from the webs and it is free information. I wonder how some journals such as Hal* which earns from buying&selling the information will be able to protect their positions if they are not planning to use the web.
As last, I'd like to make some comments on another aspect. "Artistic Growths is possble by our computerized rug society?"
Some days ago I've got an e-mail from an old (physically old but actually a young) collector. I'd like to begin with his words
"To be successful in the artistic achievement, you must have the proper soil. Nothing can grow in the Sahara desert. In the same way, for art to flourish it must have the proper socialogical climate. I fear that our computerized society with its dehumanized society is not conducive to artistic growth..." (were the html tags used in that way on the board?).
First I can just wish that our computerized society will not be conducive to artistic growth. It may even help the growth by opening new oppurtinities if the web or such communication tools, just the tools, of new societies are used in the correct way, in a constructive way. I also understand from these words that one who have used to have close contacts with rugs for very long time fears that computer is entering between him and rugs and then seperating them by a distance. But, I think one point is being missed. Jerry says that "No middle man anymore?" My response to this is that isn't the computer becoming the dealer of the current age by taking the positions of the middle man? I can think of many advantages and disadvantages of this new dealer. One of the advantages (may be considered as a disadvantage) is that I have no chance to hit him with the fist when I got nervous while communicating with a person and I can not take the risk of hitting this new dealer (computer) because it costed much to me.
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