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    Hi everyone,

    this time I would like to share a carpet that I obtained recently. Due to very heavy moth damage it is (again) more of a study piece than a proper collector’s item, but I liked the design and coarse style of it a lot and it fits very well with the style of my flat. And that is the very first item from the"Turkmen universe", that I decided to buy. I therefore decided to stabilize the loose areas and display it—unfortunately because of the size, carefully folded in half—over my 1970s Hamadan in a low-traffic part of the living room. Not a perfect solution, I know…

    After some reading, among others in the Turkotek archive saloons, and comparing examples I found online (for example here: https://society.uz/culture/16), I would tentatively describe it as a Turkmen-style Uzbek main carpet (about 260 × 155 cm) from the Amu Darya delta with a cross / Kiz-gilam gül–type motif in the main field. Am I correct with this attribution? From what I have read, dating these rugs can be somewhat problematic—similar to some of the Baluch pieces I own. My rough guess would be late 19th century, or at the latest early 20th century. Could that be plausible?

    In the better-preserved areas the pile is still quite high and the colors are generally deep and saturated. There are some indigo yarns that, together with brown wool, produce a green-turquoise abrash effect. As far as I understand, the border might be a typical Ersari–Beshir type, but I am not completely sure.

    I would very much appreciate any thoughts on this piece.

    Best regards

    Marta
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    • #3
      Hi Marta,

      You might want to review the contents of this salon, related to your piece. Karakalpakstan and northwest Uzbekistan both produced work like this in the past.

      http://www.turkotek.com/salon_00078/salon.html

      Your does not have warp depression, and has a border with a more Turkmen look to it than the typical Karakalpak piece. The weave also has an Ersari look & feel, yet I think it is not Ersari work.

      Regards
      Chuck Wagner

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      • #4
        Hi Chuck,

        Many thanks for your reply, and please accept my apologies for responding so late. I haven't been on the forum for quite a while and only just noticed that I had completely overlooked your message.

        Thank you also for the link to the salon discussion. I found it very interesting and helpful, and your comments about the weave, the border, and the possible attribution gave me a much better perspective on the piece. It is fascinating how my rug seem to sit somewhere between the Turkmen and Karakalpak traditions.

        I really appreciate you taking the time to respond! Once more I am very sorry for s7ch a delay in my answer.

        Best regards,

        Marta

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        • #5
          Marta,

          I have also had many distraactions, but am back at the keyboard now. Looking at this piece again, instead of simply saying Ersari, I am now inclined toward a middle Amu Darya region of origin, and of the group called Beshir. The border is similar to some seen on other Beshir pieces, as is the use of the pale yellow and medium indigo blue.

          Regards,
          Chuck

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          • #6
            Kyrgyz from Fergana

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            • #7
              Thank you for your valuable suggestions! Chuck - ys, a Amu Darya region and Bakhshir border attribution was also my initial guess, and I am glad, that you confirmed and specified that. On the other hand, a Kyrgyz attribution sounds very interesting as well!
              So, I guess my next rug book acquisition will be Carpets of the Peoples of Central Asia of the Late 19th and 20th Centuries by V. G. Moshkova, provided I can find a reasonably priced copy in Europe :-). In the meantime, I'll continue doing some research online.
              As an archaeologist, perhaps this shouldn't surprise me at all, but what still really amazes me are the colours, the bold but at the same time harmonic design - at least to my modern taste of the 21st century and the incredible journey this carpet must have made at some ponit to reach eastern Germany, whether from the Middle Amu Darya region or the northern (?) Ferghana Valley... that is really cool...
              Once more, thank you for both suggestions, and best regards!

              Marta

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              • #8
                Marta,

                Our Guest has not identified themself, nor provided any rationale for a Kyrgyz attribution.The motifs and design are nothing like any Kyrgyz work I have ever seen, including pieces I own. So I would not put a lot of faith in that suggestion without a better explanation from our Guest.

                Regards
                Chuck

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                • #9
                  Chuck, I get your point.
                  Once more thank you for our reply!
                  Greetings

                  Marta

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