Погружение в мир ковра

[Veersaviya Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Veersaviya]

Здравствуйте, уважаемые знатоки ковров. Мне случайно достался небольшой коврик размером 104 ×161 см, изрядно изношенный и пыльный. Сначала я обратила внимание на тонкий рисунок, множество мелких деталей, потом на его бархатный приятный ворс, а потом я стала искать информацию и погружаться в мир ковров и меня захватил этот процесс. Я измучила все доступные мне ИИ и вот, добралась до вашего сообщества. Пожалуйста, расскажите мне про мой ковер. Как считаете, он туркменский? Какой примерно возраст? Очень хочется услышать мнение экспертов. Спасибо заранее.

[Steve Price Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close Steve Price]

Hi Veersaviya

Welcome to Turkotek. Here's a translation of your message:
Hello, dear carpet experts. I happened to get a small rug measuring 104 × 161 cm, quite worn and dusty. At first, I noticed the fine pattern, with lots of tiny details, then its velvety, pleasant pile, and then I started looking for information and diving into the world of carpets, and the process completely captivated me. I exhausted all the AI resources available to me, and here I am, reaching out to your community. Please tell me about my rug. Do you think it’s Turkmen? How old might it be? I really want to hear the opinion of experts. Thank you in advance.

Your rug is Turkmen, woven during the Soviet era. I hope this helps.

Steve Price

[Chuck Wagner Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close Chuck Wagner]

Hi Veersaviya,

Steve is correct. Additionally, the large central motifs on your rug are typical of the Tekke Turkmen tribe, as are many motifs in the borders. The weaving style is typical of Turkmen work from northwest Afghanistan and southwest Turkmenistan. However, with modern rugs from this region, tribal disruption, cultural mixing, and weaving for the commercial market make it almost impossible to be certain about where, and by who, the rug was produced.

Regards
Chuck Wagner

[Veersaviya Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Veersaviya]

Спасибо, это очень важная информация для меня. Как вы думаете, красители которые были использованы для шерсти синтетические? Я чистила ковер влажным белым полотенцем и оно не окрасилось. Кроме того при детальном разглядывании присутствует абраш. Конечно он не ярко выражен, как на более светлых коврах, но чёрный цвет, он не чисто чёрный. Он местами темно-зеленый или темно-синий не возможно уловить точный цвет.

[Steve Price Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close Steve Price]

Hi Veersaviya

Here's the English translation of your message: Thank you, this is very important information for me. Do you think the dyes that were used for the wool are synthetic? I cleaned the carpet with a damp white cloth and it didn't get stained. Also, when looking closely, there is abrash. Of course, it's not very pronounced like on lighter carpets, but the black color isn't pure black. In some places, it's dark green or dark blue, it's impossible to catch the exact color.

I'm surprised that rubbing the carpet with a wet white cloth didn't result in red stains on the cloth. But the running reds are pretty clear on your fourth photo, which suggests (but doesn't prove) that the red dye is synthetic. The row of "bowtie" motifs on each end are typical of Soviet Turkmen weaving, which makes me believe that the approximate date was middle of the 20th century, when natural dyes were rarely used.

Best

Steve Price

[Veersaviya Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Veersaviya]

Благодарю за внимание к моему вопросу. Да, я видела красные растекающиеся пятна. ИИ предположил, что это может быть миграцией цвета. Этот ковер долгое время лежал на полу и он загрязнен. Я хочу его почистить. В местах протирания влажной тряпкой его краски оживают, становятся яркими.

Translation: Thanks for paying attention to my question. Yes, I saw the red spreading spots. AI suggested that it could be color migration. This carpet has been on the floor for a long time and it’s dirty. I want to clean it. In the areas wiped with a damp cloth, its colors come alive and become bright.

[Steve Price Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close Steve Price]

Hi Veersaviya

When you clean it, add something a bit acidic to the water; maybe a few drops of vinegar or lemon juice. That will help prevent the reds from running.

Best

Steve Price