Posted by Steve Price on 04-23-2004 01:58 PM:

Yomud Fragment and Tobacco Bags

Hi People

Seref Ozen (Istanbul) has very kindly sent me closeups of a Yomud embroidery fragment and two Yomud tobacco bags. Here are those of the tobacco bags.

This is the Yomud fragment.

Cok tesikur edirim, Seref Bey.


Steve Price

Posted by Chuck Wagner on 04-28-2004 10:00 AM:

Hi Steve,

It's interesting that these are attributed to Yomud weavers. They look a lot like what I would have considered Tekke work, like the second image in Louis' post. On what sort of information is the attribution based ?

As long as we're on the topic of Yomud work, lets not forget the embroidered jollars:

Chuck Wagner

Chuck Wagner

Posted by Steve Price on 04-28-2004 10:09 AM:

Hi Chuck

Pieces like the one you illustrate are sometimes called embroidered, but they are actually done in a form of soumak weaving. That is, the design is woven, not applied to a finished fabric with needle and floss.

The attribution problem for embroideries is, in my opinion, pretty profound. I know of no authoritative source for calling one piece Ersari and another Yomud, although the palettes of some are pretty suggestive of Tekke origin. Even that criterion is only as good as the asumption that the Turkmen used the same palettes in their embroidery to those in their pile weaves.

I had kind of hoped that my Salon essay would smoke out some stashes of information bearing on this issue, but so far, nothing has come out.


Steve Price