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Subject  :  Another Turkmen Piece
Author  :  Steve Price mailto:%20sprice@hsc.vcu.edu
Date  :  09-29-2001 on 06:18 p.m.
Hi People,

Here's another Turkmen (Yomud group, I guess, but I'm not awfully confident about that) with some offset knots.

The little triangles in the border have them. The little triangles in the field don't (I think - I'm not terribly comfortable about whether I'm calling it correctly in a few places).

Here's a scan of part of the front:

This little fellow has red wefts and a fabulous palette.


Steve Price

Subject  :  Re:Another Turkmen Piece
Author  :  Marla Mallett mailto:%20marlam@mindspring.com
Date  :  09-29-2001 on 09:27 p.m.

Oh! What a surprise! I wonder how many times Iíve looked past those borders, and simply not noticed offsets. When we compare this with the same border on the Yomut piece I posted on Patís Baluch thread, itís quite clear why this weaver chose to make adjustments in the design diagonals. She avoided distorted horizontal borders, and made four borders that matched. Isnít it strange that the other weaver used offset knotting the field, but then not in the border where it would also have made an immense difference? Strange.

If we can keep collecting such examples, I think thereís a very good chance that such practices will eventually have some significance in sorting out some surprising specialized groupings. To me, it seems that many very beautiful Yomut pieces have not gotten their due, as other more easily definable and smaller groups have been merchandised enthusiastically. Just wait until another specialized group emergesÖso that folks need not try so desperately to cram miscellaneous pieces that donít fit into ďEagle GolĒ categoriesÖ

Many thanks! This is exactly what I was hoping for during this Salon discussion.


Subject  :  Re:Another Turkmen Piece
Author  :  Daniel Deschuyteneer mailto:%20daniel-d@skynet.be
Date  :  09-30-2001 on 12:56 a.m.
Dear Steve,
I suppose that just the triangles in the horizontal outer border are offsets but that they aren't in the vertical borders. Isn' it?

Subject  :  Re:Another Turkmen Piece
Author  :  Steve Price mailto:%20sprice@hsc.vcu.edu
Date  :  09-30-2001 on 07:34 a.m.
Hi Daniel,

Nope. The little triangles include offset knotting at the tips that point horizontally in both the horizontal and vertical borders. The little triangles in the field have no offset knots.

Does this make sense to me? To you? To quote A.A. Milne's timeless prose, It's THE WAY THINGS ARE, I suppose.


Steve Price

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