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Subject  :  Summary
Author  :  John Howe
Date  :  10-06-2000 on 09:45 a.m.
rjhowe@erols.com First, I want to thank Wendel for permitting me to use this potpourri session as a basis for a salon, for his very real assistance in composing the opening photo essay, and for his active participation as the salon proceeded, the latter including either initiation of, or contribution to, at least four threads that required considerable careful, time-consuming work on his part. Vincent Keers was also a noticeably active participant in the discussion, trying with some graphics he created to help us “see” what he sees. The large number of posts in this salon is likely the result of having a relatively large number of quality pieces to examine but also of the work a number of people did in drawing our attention to particular facets of them. Emmett Eiland’s report in Hali of some sentences Harald Bohmer had written about natural and synthetic dyes and color harmony served to trigger a vigorous discussion in which we seemed to conclude that while synthetic dyes do not exhibit “pure” colors, it may be that they tend to contain a narrower range of colors than do most natural dyes and that (although some still tussled with the notion of “color harmony” and what it might be) this may help explain why some of us experience a lack of color harmony when some synthetic dyes are used and more harmony when natural ones are. It was also important to me to hear from an experienced worker with natural dyes that these if incorrectly mordanted might fail to produce any color or might produce light colors but that they will not “run.” This violated my commonsensical, man-on-the-street picture of things in this area. Wendel’s possibly “Shahsavan” pile rug provided a basis for a two-part 28 message long discussion of tesselation, and of what it is and is not, that seemed to me to provide both some creativity and clarification. Wendel’s suggestion that “blunted” sides are ubiquitous in weaving designs and the search for possible explanations of this phenomena, opened our eyes to something some of us may have been vaguely aware of but have previously passed by without noticing much. This thread too attracted a large number of posts, several of which probed the extent to which this tendency might or might not be related to technical factors. I, at least, got some clarification on what the distinction is between “zili” brocade and “sumak.” And Wendel demonstrated that useful threads need not be long. He may not have convinced us all to see “birds” everywhere in his small Senneh kilim but it was useful to have that interpretation, and his post on his Zoroatrian textile and its use was so helpfully graphic and usefully conclusionary that there seemed little more to say. My own effort to get images of varieties of “broken borders” in front of us, was seen as unneeded and less useful but it was not, as some thought, unserious. My thanks to all the contributors here for making this what is seems to me to have been a useful salon. Regards, R. John Howe

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