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Subject  :  Internal elem?
Author  :  Steve Price
Date  :  06-26-2000 on 11:23 a.m.
sprice@hsc.vcu.edu Dear People, Ken Thompson put up images of two Belouch pillows, one of which has a field that changes width about one-fourth of the way up from the bottom. He interprets this, as I do, as an instance of the weaver changing her mind about what the dimensions of the the field and borders should be. On the other hand, there are some knowledgable, intelligent people who believe that such changes are preplanned, and refer to the jog in the borders as an "internal elem". I just pass this information along. Steve Price

Subject  :  RE:Internal elem?
Author  :  Patrick Weiler
Date  :  06-28-2000 on 10:55 a.m.
jpweil00@gte.net Steve, This balisht may have an internal elem, but it looks to me like the weaver felt a need to adjust the field size to fit the design. The large gul at the bottom has random features scattered to either side. This gave too much of an unbalanced feel to the overall weaving, so the weaver narrowed the field by adding another small border and pushing the earlier border inwards. It may also relate to a change in mind by the weaver regarding the original design, which, as Ken suggests, was supposed to be a tree of life with a gul at the bottom. They do this with movies all the time. The preview audience doesn't like the ending, so they change it, regardless of the script! If the weaver could see us now, she would probably say "why did they pick on that one? I made lots of better ones than that!" Patrick Weiler

Subject  :  RE:Internal elem?
Author  :  Steve Price
Date  :  06-28-2000 on 11:06 a.m.
sprice@hsc.vcu.edu Dear Patrick, I agree 100%, the jogs that we see in borders are most easily explained as being instances of the weaver changing her mind. I've seen rugs with as many as five or six jogs before the final width of the field and borders settles down. My raising the matter was simply to point out that there are other people who think differently. One of the things I find interesting about these jogs is that the weavers evidently found it less objectionable to make a correction that is clearly visible and obvious than to just finish the thing the way it started and make the next one with the dimensions adjusted. Steve Price

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