Steve Price January 3rd, 2014 09:55 PM

My other one
Hi People

This is the second of my specimens of this genre of bagface. It's 2'7" x 2'7" (the shape is distorted in the photo because I couldn't get as far away from it as I'd like to), 9 x 14 asymmetric knots open left per inch (126 knots/square inch). I especially like the drawing and the clarity with which the motifs are seen. The colors are a bit more saturated in person than their appearance on my monitor.


Steve Price

Dinie Gootjes January 8th, 2014 06:29 AM

Hi Steve, Joel and All,

Besides the drawing, I also like the harmonious colours of your bag face, Steve. I have a bag with the same motifs, but with more diverse colours. I found two more similar bag faces, in colour more like yours, and then there is the Sorgato piece from the salon:

They not only share what Wegner calls the gul-e-Moreidari in the outer field, they also all have at least one row of either animals or palmettes/shrubs over or under the field. Four of the five have a similar palette, and only one example does not have the chevron and diamond border. Another group within the group, like the bug border and shrub one from the Bird's the Word discussion thread?

One more example. It does not have the extra row of motifs, and it has a border none of the other ones has, but it was not allowed to play anyway: it is a 4'x7' rug.


PS: Chuck, the motif in the corner of your bag from the other thread looks rather like these shrubs viewed upside down. If you have a record of a birth, Steve must have the whole maternity ward :eek:

Steve Price January 8th, 2014 01:59 PM

Hi Dinie

One of the things that interests me about the one I own is that the rows of shrubs or flowers across the top and bottom of the field have "blossoms" that look exactly like the feet of the animals in the same places on many other pieces. Several of those in your post illustrate this. I've always thought those were strange looking feet, still do.



Patrick Weiler January 8th, 2014 08:21 PM

Plant Your Feet

Interesting observation that the feet are the same motif as the plants. This same technique of multi-purpose devices was used quite recently when the Afghan War Rug weavers turned botehs into hand grenades.
It could be that the motif is easily rendered by the weavers and readily utilized in a variety of situations.

Patrick Weiler

Joel Greifinger January 11th, 2014 06:23 PM

Rugs Welcome

One more example... but it was not allowed to play anyway: it is a 4'x7' rug.
Hi Dinie,

I think we should display our inclusiveness and tolerance by declaring the (rare?) rugs that use star-in-octagon field designs as members of an honorary auxiliary. :clap:

I don't know of many, but here are two:


Joel Greifinger March 17th, 2014 12:36 AM

Whichever way you tie the knot...

I think we should display our inclusiveness and tolerance by declaring the (rare?) rugs that use star-in-octagon field designs as members of an honorary auxiliary.
The club's inclusive policy has yielded additional potential members. :party:

The first two are symmetrically-knotted and, like the ones in the preceeding post, have a line of star-in-octagon field designs:

The third is a rug that sold a few weeks back on eBay. It also appears to be symmetrically-knotted:


Joel Greifinger May 30th, 2014 12:03 AM

Sticking with the stars; no animals or trees required
In line with the open-mindedness already displayed in this thread as to the boundaries of the 'Baluch' star-in-octagon form :rolleyes:, this bag probably presents the limit case. Here the design dispenses with any inner field and simplifies to a lattice of stars-in-octagons framed by diamonds. The 'S' in hexagons in the border can also be found on some more typical star-in-octagon bags.


Frank Martin Diehr May 31st, 2014 09:23 PM

Here's another one like Steve's
Before we get carried away too far from the starter piece, here's one of mine.
Apart from the ones posted on this thread, I know of three or four more in literature, all superficially rather similar. Clearly not the run of the mill bag type.
Note the critter in pistachio green, I believe it is cotton (and some silk highlights elsewhere).


(I'm a lousy photographer, I know. The red actually is a clear salor type red. One day ...)

p.s. Dinie, I just noticed that you had posted my piece before me - was it yours before it found its way to Germany?

Dinie Gootjes June 4th, 2014 04:07 AM

Hi Frank,

When I was considering buying my piece, the first picture in my post, I looked around on Rugrabbit for similar ones. That's when I found the rug which later must have made its way to you. You were lucky: if that one had been mine, it would have remained mine :D.

I notice that all other bags with this kind of design seem to have Khorassan type colours, mostly deep red and blue. Mine is the only one with a lighter red, plus lots of purple and medium blue. It is also coarser than I think the others are. Different area, different age? Ideas anyone?


Frank Martin Diehr June 4th, 2014 11:19 PM

Hi Dinie,

yes, they mostly have that distinct Khorassan feel - and yes, yours seem different. I have no suggestions as to where from, but there doesn't seem to be much of an age difference, so all the usual trodden theories (foreign/stolen bride etc. etc. ) spring to mind, but are of not much use.
I like it.


p.s. I bought mine at RB some years back.

Dinie Gootjes September 1st, 2014 04:24 AM

Hi Joel,

Here is another member of the "honorary auxiliary". Again symmetrically knotted.