Posted by Steve Price on 09-19-2004 02:17 PM:

Mystery Textile Number 2

Hi People

Here is Richard's second mystery textile:


Posted by Patrick Weiler on 09-19-2004 02:31 PM:

Guess Number 2

Serious case of mildew.



Patrick Weiler


Posted by Bob Kent on 09-19-2004 03:58 PM:

is it from the piedmont?


Posted by Steve Price on 09-19-2004 08:51 PM:

Hi Richard

Looks like a very worn piece of velvet on my monitor.

Steve Price


Posted by Richard Farber on 09-19-2004 11:46 PM:

!Dear participants


not an easy clue but there is a lot of information there to make good guesses. one little additional clue - it is a close up of part of the item.

a little help. the piece to the best of my knowledge has never suffred mildew.


now is the time for glory ! what is the attribution ! after the next clue it will be easier.


sincerely


richard farber


Posted by Richard Tomlinson on 09-20-2004 02:42 AM:

bleached afghan silk ikat

richard tomlinson


Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 09-20-2004 03:14 AM:

Close-up of Richardís very worn sofa tapestry.
Filiberto


Posted by Richard Tomlinson on 09-20-2004 06:39 AM:

uzbek ikat - i meant uzbek, but looking at it again......


a worn astroturf mat ??

i dont like this game :-(

richard tomlinson


Posted by Johanna Raynor on 09-20-2004 07:00 AM:

How about - oil pinting.

Canvas is a texltile, right?


Posted by Steve Price on 09-20-2004 08:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Johanna Raynor
How about - oil pinting.

Canvas is a texltile, right?



Hi Johanna

I've done some ale pinting, but never tried oil pinting. Doesn't sound very appetizing, but who knows?

I don't think Richard would use an oil painting for a mystery textile, although canvas is certainly a textile. You wouldn't do that, would you, Richard?

Regards

Steve Price


Posted by Johanna Raynor on 09-20-2004 09:45 AM:

Obviously my keyboard has been been pinting!!


Posted by Jerry Silverman on 09-20-2004 11:29 PM:

I dunno', but if you stare at it long enough without blinking you'll see the face of Jesus.

Oh, I forgot to mention, it's easier to see if you point a black light at your monitor.

-Jerry-


Posted by Richard Farber on 09-21-2004 11:28 AM:

Dear Turkotekees,

do not despair, some of the puzzles have to be hard.

tomorrow or the day after you will get a new visual clue but in the meantime a verbal clue. look at the color that is left from the very worn item. with that some of you should be able to guess.

best of luck

richard farber


Posted by Unregistered on 09-21-2004 04:12 PM:

Hi all

It's my long missing canvas-polyester tent cloth I used to cover the log wood with behind the house - how did you get at it?

Horst


Posted by Vincent Keers on 09-21-2004 04:46 PM:

Oi,

But this is easy
Mohammmmmed's pyjama jacket?

Best regards,
Vincent


Posted by R. John Howe on 09-21-2004 07:36 PM:

Dear folks -

Well, it's both challenging and enjoyable but I'm trying to do it and not making much headway.

Taking Richard's hint about the significance of color I want to say that its Turkish, since they treat green very seriously. And the fact that it seems velvet is also congruent, but I have no idea what it is.

Maybe part of a caftan.

Regards,

R. John Howe


Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 09-23-2004 02:29 AM:

Richard sent another clue:


Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 09-23-2004 06:43 AM:

Well, Richard....

I KNOW this one. You sent me the whole photo a couple of months ago!

Filiberto


Posted by Richard Farber on 09-23-2004 10:37 AM:

dear filiberto

i hearbye and forthwith cancell your participation in this thread . . . .

but please do enjoy the guess of the others


and where are the guesses . . .

come on turkotekees it is not as difficult now as it was before . .you have two 'notes' to base your attribution on.

best


r


Posted by Steve Price on 09-23-2004 10:48 AM:

Hi

My first guess - that the opening picture is a worn piece of velvet - is looking better. Obviously, embroidered with a metal thread. This suggests Ottoman Turkey. Maybe a cover of some sort.

Steve Price


Posted by Patrick Weiler on 09-23-2004 11:33 AM:

drapery

I hope it's a cope from a pope.

Patrick Weiler


Posted by Richard Farber on 09-23-2004 12:21 PM:

Dear turkotekees


i am happy to announce that


trumpet fanfare . . . .


. . . ya aint ev'n close


best


r

but dont be disappointed . . . if the pieces were easy the salon would be over by now . . . .


please


get you books out and NAME THAT TEXTILE !


Posted by Steve Price on 09-24-2004 10:22 AM:

Hi People

Here's Richard's third clue on this piece:


Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 09-29-2004 03:48 AM:

I have another one too!


Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 10-04-2004 01:52 AM:

...and the whole thing:


Posted by Richard Farber on 10-17-2004 02:57 AM:

THE SOLOTION !!!!

dear turkotekees

the green posted on the first clue shouted north africa !!!! and vincent made a comment about the green in another piece - the morrocan carpet -- being a give away


one frame of a SAF wall decoration
Morroco from a city workshop

metal embroidery on velvet mounted on leather

probobly 18th cent. or early 19th at the latest because the workshops that made these pieces shifted to using brocades early in the 19th cent.



i have asked steve or filiberto to post an image from a museum catalogue from Indiana with a similar piece


Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 10-17-2004 03:23 AM:

Here it is:


Regards,

Filiberto


Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 10-17-2004 09:44 AM:

Further image and note from Richard:

"This is an image from the indianapolis catalogue of their fez saf.

richard"