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Old November 19th, 2017, 01:13 AM   #1
Alex Gibber
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Dear Members,

This is Alex Gibber, and once again, I need your help in identifying the origins of this little rug.

It is 40”by 27”, with the lower end slightly wider than the top.
Structurally, it has a white woolen warp, and very finely spun, red woolen weft (double wefted), flat woven, most likely soumak (or counter soumak), though it does not have a shaggy back, I am more used to on typical soumaks.

Some of you may have seen it at our latest NERS meeting, but the opinions vary, though kind of centering on Northern Iran (Shahsavan), Southern Azerbaijan, Eastern Anatolia, with one member suggesting a possible Slavic or Scandinavian origin.

I am at a loss, and would appreciate your “expert” opinion, as well as a best guess as to its age (I realize, it is hard to tell without handling it – this is why I am asking for a guess).


Weave detail

Lower Corner

Back Detail

Back detail

Last edited by Alex Gibber; November 19th, 2017 at 03:35 PM. Reason: more logical order
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Old November 19th, 2017, 08:26 PM   #2
Marvin Amstey
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My opinion would be to include the NW Iran, Azerbaijan, or the Southern Caucuses and leave out Eastern Anatolia. My guess (and it is a guess) would be that this was made by Azeri people who inhabit that corner of the world. OTOH, a second guess would be Afshar (Southern Iran) work based on the field design.
An attractive weaving.
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Old November 19th, 2017, 11:32 PM   #3
Chuck Wagner
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Hi Alex,

I am inclined to go with Afshar for this piece. Marvin's point about the field design is on the correct; yours is a common motif on Afshar work.

I consider the combination of a rather loose soumak weave, the selvage treatment, the general balance of border(s) to field, and the medium blues, to be other strong indicators.

Here are a couple Afshar examples from our collection:

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Old November 20th, 2017, 01:13 AM   #4
Egbert Vennema
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Hi,to all, nice , my first guess, Afshar also. Regards,Egbert Vennema.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 11:12 PM   #5
Alex Gibber
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Thank you to all who replied. I appreciate your inputs.

However, I would welcome other opinions and comments, since no consensus was reached so far.

(Other that we all agree it is not Tibetan. LOL)
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