The tile hypothesis

Filiberto Boncompagni · January 31st, 2012, 08:34 AM

Yes, that could have been a possibility but, as you say, such floor should be still in existence today or, if lost, its memory should have been recorded somewhere.
Regards,

Filiberto

Yohann Gissinger · February 3rd, 2012, 12:21 PM

Hello to all,

I don't think the tile hypothesis is valid in this case:

FIG b. P. del Pollaiolo, allegory of Faith, 1469-1470 Uffizi, Florence

The bands format drove my research to some silk textiles fragments still existing in some museums or collections:

XIV-XVth c. Spain (made) Satin band, woven in gold thread along the centre.

A simulated Kufic inscription on a red ground; along either side runs the repeating Arabic inscription "Glory to the All-powerful Lord" in red silk on a white ground, bordered by narrow bands in green, red, blue and white.
Source: V&A museum website

or like this one:

XIVth c. Spain (made) Silk and metal-wrapped thread in lampas weave.

The weaver of this silk from Muslim Spain has accurately reproduced the flowing lines of an inscription in Arabic, a task requiring enormous care. The phrase ‘Glory to our lord the sultan’ has been repeated within the widest band in the design, creating the illusion of a long frieze of calligraphy.
Source: V&A museum website

Best regards,
Y

Filiberto Boncompagni · February 3rd, 2012, 12:37 PM

Bravo Yohann!

And both textiles are fom Spain... Interesting.

Regards,

Filiberto

Pierre Galafassi · February 4th, 2012, 12:25 PM

Hi Yohann,

Excellent!!
You have got an amazing "nose" for extracting information from the net.
Do you think you could make it perform as well for truffles?

regards
Pierre
P.S. I agree with Filiberto. The more we dig in "rugs and paintings" the more the feeling grows that we vastly under-evaluate the importance of Spain in rugs.

Yohann Gissinger · February 5th, 2012, 05:25 PM

There are lot of mysteries remaining especially with the long legged birds...

Y

February 3rd, 2012, 12:21 PM	#2
Yohann Gissinger Members Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: France Posts: 10	The silk textile hypothesis Hello to all, I don't think the tile hypothesis is valid in this case: FIG b. P. del Pollaiolo, allegory of Faith, 1469-1470 Uffizi, Florence The bands format drove my research to some silk textiles fragments still existing in some museums or collections: XIV-XVth c. Spain (made) Satin band, woven in gold thread along the centre. A simulated Kufic inscription on a red ground; along either side runs the repeating Arabic inscription "Glory to the All-powerful Lord" in red silk on a white ground, bordered by narrow bands in green, red, blue and white. Source: V&A museum website or like this one: XIVth c. Spain (made) Silk and metal-wrapped thread in lampas weave. The weaver of this silk from Muslim Spain has accurately reproduced the flowing lines of an inscription in Arabic, a task requiring enormous care. The phrase ‘Glory to our lord the sultan’ has been repeated within the widest band in the design, creating the illusion of a long frieze of calligraphy. Source: V&A museum website Best regards, Y

February 5th, 2012, 05:25 PM	#5
Yohann Gissinger Members Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: France Posts: 10	There are lot of mysteries remaining especially with the long legged birds... Y Last edited by Yohann Gissinger; February 28th, 2014 at 11:07 AM.

January 31st, 2012, 08:34 AM	#1
Filiberto Boncompagni Administrator Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cyprus Posts: 194	Yes, that could have been a possibility but, as you say, such floor should be still in existence today or, if lost, its memory should have been recorded somewhere. Regards, Filiberto

February 3rd, 2012, 12:37 PM	#3
Filiberto Boncompagni Administrator Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cyprus Posts: 194	Bravo Yohann! And both textiles are fom Spain... Interesting. Regards, Filiberto

February 4th, 2012, 12:25 PM	#4
Pierre Galafassi Members Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 153	Hi Yohann, Excellent!! You have got an amazing "nose" for extracting information from the net. Do you think you could make it perform as well for truffles? regards Pierre P.S. I agree with Filiberto. The more we dig in "rugs and paintings" the more the feeling grows that we vastly under-evaluate the importance of Spain in rugs.