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Old March 20th, 2017, 08:46 PM   #1
Kelly_Graziano
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Default Qashqai turkeman?

I recently purchased my first carpet at auction on ebay and wonder if anyone can help me discover more about it. I would like to know how old it is, where it comes from, the approximate value and if the major gul and border motifs have any meaning. I also wonder if it is made of hand spun wool and vegetable dyes.

The carpet was listed as "1880 QASHQAI TURKEMAN SERAPI YALAMEH". No condition issues were mentioned in the listing but it has a couple of problem areas. Are these repairs well made or should they be fixed? Also, do they negatively affect the value?

Here is what I know:

Size: 9.8 x 12.5
Warp: Goat hair (noticeable in the fringe) and wool
Weft: three, pink wool
Knots: 81 (9 x 9) KPI asymmetrical open right. (I am guessing on this)
Pile: low, even -- almost velvety
Repairs: 2 major + 1 patch + 4 minor
Colors - 6: medium red, light red, pale yellow/gold, indigo blue, dark blue/black, white
Dye: Not yet dye tested but a little bit of red leakage visible on the white part of the border. Very minor.
Primary Gul: 15 ?
Secondary Gul: dyrnak
Border: 14 borders + narrow skirt elem panel on top and bottom

I uploaded photos to my site here: http://kellygraziano.com/rug/

Thank you in advance for any information you can give.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 01:47 AM   #2
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Hi Kelly

Welcome to Turkotek. One question with which we can't help you is value. As a matter of policy, we don't discuss market values, although I will say that this isn't a big money piece.

I don't know what to make of the title under which it was listed (1880 QASHQAI TURKEMAN SERAPI YALAMEH) unless the seller was trying to use lots of keywords to capture searches. The 1880 date seems about 50 to 75 years too early; Qashqa'i, Turkmen, Serapi and Yalameh are geographic and tribal attributions that are mutually exclusive.

My best guess is that it was woven in Pakistan with a layout and motifs adapted from Turkmen roots, referred to in the marketplace as Pak-Bokhara rugs. If the motifs ever had any meanings, they are probably unknown and of no interest to the people who wove it. These are generally serviceable decorative rugs. It's highly unlikely that the wool is handspun or that the dyes aren't synthetic. The condition problems on yours seem to have been repaired well, and I wouldn't undertake the expense of dong any of them again.

Enjoy it - in the right room it will look great.

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Old March 21st, 2017, 02:30 AM   #3
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Hi Kelly,

This is an Afghan rug. Richard Parsons' book "The Carpets of Afghanistan" shows an example with precisely the same design elements and colors. These pieces are attributed to a subtribe of the Ersari Turkmen called the Ghaba Saqal. Rugs with color schemes such as yours originate in the Andkhoy region of northern Afghanistan. Steve is right about the age I think. It's highly likely that this piece was made in the 1950's.

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Old March 23rd, 2017, 07:43 PM   #4
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Thanks so much for taking the time to tell me about my carpet. I really appreciate the help and am grateful that I can finally stop searching the internet for others like it. I did a dye test and it was colorfast which was a nice surprise. Even though the carpet is not as special as I had hoped I am very glad to have it and it does look great in my office. Thanks again!
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Old March 24th, 2017, 12:35 AM   #5
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Hi Kelly

It's a handsome rug that should last a long time. It's not investment grade, but most likely neither are most of the other furnishings in your office and I doubt that you're bothered by that.

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