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Pierre Galafassi · February 29th, 2012, 11:38 AM

Hi Filiberto,

I have recently "met" two extant rugs which feature the «leaf and wineglass» border. Both are given as 15th century.

Anatolia, fragment, 15th century. Kirchheim

Konya, fragment from a rug covering Alaeddin's tomb. 15th century. TIAM.

I have no idea on what base these age guesstimates have been done, but the archaïc-looking motifs are not incompatible with such an old age, are they?

Thus, assuming the age has been correctly assessed, these «leaf and wineglass» borders would be older than the ones featured by Renaissance painters and roughly contemporary with the «double leaf and wineglass» or "Konya" border of the Crivelli rug.
These extant rugs seem to justify your doubts: The «single leaf and wineglass» motif does not necessarily derivate from the «double» one.

February 29th, 2012, 11:38 AM	#3
Pierre Galafassi Members Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 153	Hi Filiberto, I have recently "met" two extant rugs which feature the «leaf and wineglass» border. Both are given as 15th century. Anatolia, fragment, 15th century. Kirchheim Konya, fragment from a rug covering Alaeddin's tomb. 15th century. TIAM. I have no idea on what base these age guesstimates have been done, but the archaïc-looking motifs are not incompatible with such an old age, are they? Thus, assuming the age has been correctly assessed, these «leaf and wineglass» borders would be older than the ones featured by Renaissance painters and roughly contemporary with the «double leaf and wineglass» or "Konya" border of the Crivelli rug. These extant rugs seem to justify your doubts: The «single leaf and wineglass» motif does not necessarily derivate from the «double» one.