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Yohann Gissinger February 2nd, 2012 11:51 PM

A kind of elibelinde design in the field?
 
Hello to all,


http://www.turkotek.com/old_masters/FIG58.jpg

FIG 58 J.Huguet. 1466-1475. Consecration of St Augustin. MNAC. Barcelona.

http://www.turkotek.com/old_masters/st_augustine.jpg

I suppose the rug above is close to the one of your fig.58, isn't it Pierre?
Unfortunately, one can't be 100% sure about the field design.


Best regards,
Y:)

Pierre Galafassi February 3rd, 2012 12:00 PM

Hi Yohann,
Indeed, the main border of your rug is almost identical with Huguet's. What a pity that the dear saint did not wish to step back a little. We could have enjoyed a little bit more of the field. On the saint’s right side, one can notice a few knots which might belong to a small Holbein pattern. Do you agree?
I don’t see clearly the eyebelinde motif though.

Does this border give us a hint about the origin of Huguet‘s rug? I don’t think so. The attribution to Spain, for all I know, might have been influenced by the painter’s nationality.
The extant rug in your post is, unless I err, attributed to western Anatolia, sixteenth or seventeenth century, right? This main border is indeed rare in extant rugs.
FIG 1 shows another quite similar version. Again its origin is claimed to be Anatolia.
FIG 1: Anatolia, sixteenth century, Walter B. Denny, Anatolian Carpets, page 89
http://www.turkotek.com/old_masters/pierre_fragment.jpg

Time for the 100% un-substantiated theory of the month:angelic:: This border motif could be a much simplified version of a border pattern met on rugs of various origin, including Anatolia and Yomud Turkmen, as seen below:
FIG 2: Anatolia, fifteenth or sixteenth century, B. Balpinar & U Hirsch, Carpets, page 215.
http://www.turkotek.com/old_masters/...r_fragment.jpg
FIG 3: Yomud khali, eighteenth century?

http://www.turkotek.com/old_masters/...yomud_main.jpg


Regards
Pierre


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