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[QUOTE=Paul McGhee;19558]I spotted this picture from the Illustrated London News of May 17th 1879 showing a man weaving a long runner outside a fort at Jalalabad. Unfortunately I don't have the accompanying text. Since this was drawn at the height of the second Afghan war I wondered if it shows a prisoner put to work to weave carpets as part of his incarceration and whether the two guys in the background are jailors or fellow prisoners. [img]http://www.turkotek.com/show_and_tell/paul.jpg[/img] I understand that the practice of getting prisoners to weave is still current in some jails in the region and it would be interesting to know if "jail-produced" carpets have particular qualities as a result of the materials and manpower available. I have a Turkoman-style carpet bought in "British India" (i.e. Pakistan) before Partition which has an elaborate design with a high knot count but is made of very inferior wool. I read somewhere that they were sometimes made from the recycled wool of old British soldiers' socks. I thought this might be just the kind of esoteric subject which y'all would know about :-)[/QUOTE]

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June 19th, 2015 04:30 PM

Marla Mallett Paul,

I can’t answer your specific questions above, but I can say this: The drawing does NOT show a pile carpet being woven. With the four-harness loom structure shown, and several pattern shed sticks inserted in the warp, we can assume that some variety of brocaded fabric was being produced.

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June 13th, 2015 08:01 AM

Paul McGhee
Weaving at Prisons in Afghanistan/Pakistan
I spotted this picture from the Illustrated London News of May 17th 1879 showing a man weaving a long runner outside a fort at Jalalabad. Unfortunately I don't have the accompanying text. Since this was drawn at the height of the second Afghan war I wondered if it shows a prisoner put to work to weave carpets as part of his incarceration and whether the two guys in the background are jailors or fellow prisoners.

I understand that the practice of getting prisoners to weave is still current in some jails in the region and it would be interesting to know if "jail-produced" carpets have particular qualities as a result of the materials and manpower available.

I have a Turkoman-style carpet bought in "British India" (i.e. Pakistan) before Partition which has an elaborate design with a high knot count but is made of very inferior wool. I read somewhere that they were sometimes made from the recycled wool of old British soldiers' socks.

I thought this might be just the kind of esoteric subject which y'all would know about :-)

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June 19th, 2015 04:30 PM
Marla Mallett	Paul, I can’t answer your specific questions above, but I can say this: The drawing does NOT show a pile carpet being woven. With the four-harness loom structure shown, and several pattern shed sticks inserted in the warp, we can assume that some variety of brocaded fabric was being produced. Marla
June 13th, 2015 08:01 AM
Paul McGhee	Weaving at Prisons in Afghanistan/Pakistan I spotted this picture from the Illustrated London News of May 17th 1879 showing a man weaving a long runner outside a fort at Jalalabad. Unfortunately I don't have the accompanying text. Since this was drawn at the height of the second Afghan war I wondered if it shows a prisoner put to work to weave carpets as part of his incarceration and whether the two guys in the background are jailors or fellow prisoners. I understand that the practice of getting prisoners to weave is still current in some jails in the region and it would be interesting to know if "jail-produced" carpets have particular qualities as a result of the materials and manpower available. I have a Turkoman-style carpet bought in "British India" (i.e. Pakistan) before Partition which has an elaborate design with a high knot count but is made of very inferior wool. I read somewhere that they were sometimes made from the recycled wool of old British soldiers' socks. I thought this might be just the kind of esoteric subject which y'all would know about :-)