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[QUOTE=Stephen Pendleton;20702]Re vacuuming, for antique pieces, I generally limit to suction only, turning off the beater. For durable furnishing rugs, I'm less strict. Turning a rug over and vibrating it (I use a modified vibrating sander) can shake out a shocking amount of dust. Re washing at home, the most important thing is knowing enough about dyes to know what's safe to wash. Vegetal dyes in antique rugs or recent "natural dye" rugs are usually wash-fast (and that's one reason that collectors prefer traditional dyes). Chrome dyes in rugs woven under controlled conditions should be safe to wash. Some synthetic dyes widely used especially in nomadic and village rugs after (say) 1910 are highly unsafe to wash. As a too-broad generalization, a whole generation of post-war village rugs is at high risk of running on contact with water. You can test dyes to an extent, e.g., by rubbing a damp white handkerchief color-by-color on the back of the rug. If you're confident that the dyes are sound, you can wash rugs at home, and many people do. For scatter-sized pieces, fill the bathtub with cool water, add some dissolved Orvis paste (an industrial form of sodium laural sulphate, like baby shampoo without colorants, fragrances, or other additives), lower the rug in the water, wet thoroughly, agitate by hand, soak for a few hours, and if necessary repeat. When done washing, rinse very thoroughly (hosing it down in the driveway works). I use a squeegee to pull water off the wet rug, then a shop vac to get even more water out. Dewatering reduces risk of run. To dry the rest of the way, I made a frame with rope supports to hold the rug in a kind of net off the ground, then run a fan under it to encourage evaporation. It often takes a day or more to dry. It's hard work but almost free. For carpet-size pieces, I bite the bullet and pay a local specialty dealer to wash and dry.[/QUOTE]

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July 7th, 2016 08:33 PM

Stephen Pendleton
Dyestuffs
Re vacuuming, for antique pieces, I generally limit to suction only, turning off the beater. For durable furnishing rugs, I'm less strict. Turning a rug over and vibrating it (I use a modified vibrating sander) can shake out a shocking amount of dust.

Re washing at home, the most important thing is knowing enough about dyes to know what's safe to wash. Vegetal dyes in antique rugs or recent "natural dye" rugs are usually wash-fast (and that's one reason that collectors prefer traditional dyes). Chrome dyes in rugs woven under controlled conditions should be safe to wash. Some synthetic dyes widely used especially in nomadic and village rugs after (say) 1910 are highly unsafe to wash. As a too-broad generalization, a whole generation of post-war village rugs is at high risk of running on contact with water. You can test dyes to an extent, e.g., by rubbing a damp white handkerchief color-by-color on the back of the rug. If you're confident that the dyes are sound, you can wash rugs at home, and many people do.

For scatter-sized pieces, fill the bathtub with cool water, add some dissolved Orvis paste (an industrial form of sodium laural sulphate, like baby shampoo without colorants, fragrances, or other additives), lower the rug in the water, wet thoroughly, agitate by hand, soak for a few hours, and if necessary repeat. When done washing, rinse very thoroughly (hosing it down in the driveway works). I use a squeegee to pull water off the wet rug, then a shop vac to get even more water out. Dewatering reduces risk of run. To dry the rest of the way, I made a frame with rope supports to hold the rug in a kind of net off the ground, then run a fan under it to encourage evaporation. It often takes a day or more to dry. It's hard work but almost free. For carpet-size pieces, I bite the bullet and pay a local specialty dealer to wash and dry.
June 1st, 2016 04:41 PM

Charon Lefleur I consider myself a relative newbie too but I don't have to clean my rug very often or use any pest repellent. The worst situation was when my husband was doing some work in the den and had to cut a hole in our wall to get to the electrical wiring. The tarp must have slipped by a corner of my carpet ended up with plaster dust completely covering it! I panicked a bit but simply used a light vacuum (no fancy attachments or anything) and the plaster dust came right up as if nothing had happened. This site has been a great resource for me since I found it a few weeks ago, so I'm sure you'll be able to find plenty of great information for you specific situation! Good luck!
May 29th, 2016 11:44 PM

Robert Wellington Thanks Steve - I'll do that!
May 29th, 2016 03:25 PM

Steve Price Hi Robert

If you go to our home page, then follow the link to our Archives, you'll find a utility that let's you search the site with Google. If you use "orvus" as the search term, you'll find the information.

Steve Price
May 29th, 2016 02:24 AM

Robert Wellington
Do you clean and wash your carpets?
Hello everyone,

I thought I'd start a new thread to find out more about how the more experienced collectors take care of their precious rugs.

How often do you brush or vacuum your carpets? Do any of you use the vinegar solution technique to repel carpet eating critters? Do you use professional cleaners when they need a wash, or do you hose them down in the back yard

I would be great for newbies like me to know more about this from those of you who have tried it all before!

Robert.

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July 7th, 2016 08:33 PM
Stephen Pendleton	Dyestuffs Re vacuuming, for antique pieces, I generally limit to suction only, turning off the beater. For durable furnishing rugs, I'm less strict. Turning a rug over and vibrating it (I use a modified vibrating sander) can shake out a shocking amount of dust. Re washing at home, the most important thing is knowing enough about dyes to know what's safe to wash. Vegetal dyes in antique rugs or recent "natural dye" rugs are usually wash-fast (and that's one reason that collectors prefer traditional dyes). Chrome dyes in rugs woven under controlled conditions should be safe to wash. Some synthetic dyes widely used especially in nomadic and village rugs after (say) 1910 are highly unsafe to wash. As a too-broad generalization, a whole generation of post-war village rugs is at high risk of running on contact with water. You can test dyes to an extent, e.g., by rubbing a damp white handkerchief color-by-color on the back of the rug. If you're confident that the dyes are sound, you can wash rugs at home, and many people do. For scatter-sized pieces, fill the bathtub with cool water, add some dissolved Orvis paste (an industrial form of sodium laural sulphate, like baby shampoo without colorants, fragrances, or other additives), lower the rug in the water, wet thoroughly, agitate by hand, soak for a few hours, and if necessary repeat. When done washing, rinse very thoroughly (hosing it down in the driveway works). I use a squeegee to pull water off the wet rug, then a shop vac to get even more water out. Dewatering reduces risk of run. To dry the rest of the way, I made a frame with rope supports to hold the rug in a kind of net off the ground, then run a fan under it to encourage evaporation. It often takes a day or more to dry. It's hard work but almost free. For carpet-size pieces, I bite the bullet and pay a local specialty dealer to wash and dry.
June 1st, 2016 04:41 PM
Charon Lefleur	I consider myself a relative newbie too but I don't have to clean my rug very often or use any pest repellent. The worst situation was when my husband was doing some work in the den and had to cut a hole in our wall to get to the electrical wiring. The tarp must have slipped by a corner of my carpet ended up with plaster dust completely covering it! I panicked a bit but simply used a light vacuum (no fancy attachments or anything) and the plaster dust came right up as if nothing had happened. This site has been a great resource for me since I found it a few weeks ago, so I'm sure you'll be able to find plenty of great information for you specific situation! Good luck!
May 29th, 2016 11:44 PM
Robert Wellington	Thanks Steve - I'll do that!
May 29th, 2016 03:25 PM
Steve Price	Hi Robert If you go to our home page, then follow the link to our Archives, you'll find a utility that let's you search the site with Google. If you use "orvus" as the search term, you'll find the information. Steve Price
May 29th, 2016 02:24 AM
Robert Wellington	Do you clean and wash your carpets? Hello everyone, I thought I'd start a new thread to find out more about how the more experienced collectors take care of their precious rugs. How often do you brush or vacuum your carpets? Do any of you use the vinegar solution technique to repel carpet eating critters? Do you use professional cleaners when they need a wash, or do you hose them down in the back yard I would be great for newbies like me to know more about this from those of you who have tried it all before! Robert.