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April 23rd, 2011 03:28 PM
Pierre Galafassi Hi Chris,
Your discovery will make waves, perhaps even cause a tsunami in Rugdom. Finding the long lost Baluch tribe West of the Couscous Wall AND proving beyond a doubt the direct filiation of their totemic motifs with those of 13-15th century «anorexic animal rugs», that’s brilliant!!
Pierre
April 22nd, 2011 07:16 PM
Chris Countryman
Interestinger and interestinger

Fellow Ruggies,

We should never underestimate the power of chihuahuas and birds. Attached is a picture of a rare maned-chihuahua with two of the Colonel's friends. It was woven by the lost Baluch tribe of North Africa.



Chris Countryman
April 13th, 2011 11:19 AM
Filiberto Boncompagni Hi Pierre,
Quote:
«...Tabarasan call this design «Juhud» (Jewish), Lezgis of the Kuragh region call it «Karabagk khanch» (Karabagk crest) and Lezgis of the Akhti region call it «Ermeni» (Armenian)....».
I think this quote is important because it reflects popular (in the sense of vox populi ) appellations and, for once, it doesn’t imply the usual attempt to appropriate textile items to their own ethnical group. But how we sort it out?

In my opinion I would give more credit to the “Armenian” and “Karabagh crest” (hence with strong Armenian possibility) denominations for the following reasons:
First, Lesghis are the primary makers of those large Sumaks. So they should know better than the others.
Second, the “Jewish” attribution could have ben mistakenly originated by the similarity of those devices with the Star of David.

Regards,

Filiberto
April 12th, 2011 05:23 PM
Steve Price Hi People

I think you're on to something. The Chichuahua's curled tail and large, pointed, fan-like ears also figure prominently in stylized forms on many oriental rugs.

Regards

Steve Price
April 12th, 2011 04:28 PM
Pierre Galafassi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni View Post
Well, Pierre...
I don't think chihuahuas could make it into a 15th century carpet...

Why not Filiberto? Chihuahuas have the perfect size for a rug border. Come to think of it the the race must have been created in al-Andalus with this use in mind. Migrating later to Mexico on a Spanish Galleon, together with smallpox.
Regards
Pierre
April 12th, 2011 04:13 PM
Pierre Galafassi Hi all,
I would like to come back just for a moment to the Crivelli Star:
A further browsing through the net and scores of rug books confirms that the motif was rare already in the 15th century. Only very few credible heirs can be found among extant anatolian 16th and 17th century rugs. FIG 1 being one of these rare birds.

In "Orient Stars", H. Kirchheim.

However, as quoted by Filiberto from Milberg «The largest group of rugs bearing 16-point medallions are to be found in the Caucasus. And here they are found in kilim, soumac, and pile structures, suggesting a northern Caucasian (nowadays Kuba/Daghestan) origin».

FIG 2 (Kuba rug), 3 and 4 (East-Caucasian sumaks) illustrate Milberg’s statement. Their 16-point star is indeed very similar to the 15th century prototypes.

In "Orient Teppiche. Band I. Kaukasische Teppiche" by D. Eder.


In "Sovereign Carpets. Unknown Masterpieces from European Collections" by E. Concaro & A. Levi.



One might argue that the design is merely a late revival, inspired by commercial considerations. However, experts date a number of such rugs from the early 19th century or older. FIG 2-4 indeed look pre-Kustar, don’t they?
One cannot exclude therefore that a Caucasian ethnic group has kept weaving large Crivelli Stars during half a millennium. To quote Rich: «It is remarkable how persistent are many of the designs»

Filiberto has drawn my attention to a commercial Caucasian rug site mentioning opinions of various daghestani populations about the origin of that design. There is no unanimity about it, but all seem to agree that it is traditional. «...Tabarasan call this design «Juhud» (Jewish), Lezgis of the Kuragh region call it «Karabagk khanch» (Karabagk crest) and Lezgis of the Akhti region call it «Ermeni» (Armenian)....». The daghestani site owner adds his personal opinion that the star is probably the expression of « the artistic traditions of Mountain Jews and Armenians, the only Jewish and Christian people living in Daghestan for centuries as neighbors and compatriots...».
Amen.
Pierre
April 12th, 2011 03:52 PM
Filiberto Boncompagni Well, Pierre...
I don't think chihuahuas could make it into a 15th century carpet...


April 12th, 2011 03:41 PM
Pierre Galafassi Spanish animal rugs


Hi Rich,
Your question about birds in Spanish Renaissance rugs hits an interesting point.

As mentioned by Yohann in an earlier post, Al Andalus might indeed have been the source of some of the (geometric- or animal-) rugs featured in 15-16th century paintings.
Curatola (1) thinks that some of the smaller rugs appearing in V. Carpaccio’s cycle of Saint Ursula (FIG 1, detail; Accademia, Venice) have a spanish origin. The "Parrot & Pope" rug in our essay might have been woven there too.



Al Andalus was indicated by the arab traveler el-Idrisi and the historian al-Saqundi (12th century) as being a very active weaving center, exporting its rugs to other Moslem states and "to the whole world". (2)(4). Rug fragments with typical Spanish knot, found at Fostat (Cairo) seem to confirm their information.

Eleanor of Castille, after her marriage to Edward I in 1254, was reputed to have brought a large quantity of Spanish rugs for use in her apartments at Westminster. (3)(4)

As illustrated by the extant rugs below, Al Andalus weavers were quite fond of animals, especially lions, griffons, bulls, chihuahuas (see border in FIG 2) ...err and yes Rich, chicken too .


Alcaraz? 15th century. In "Oriental Rugs from Atlantic Collections", D. Dodds & M.L. Eiland.


Alpujarra 16th century.


Alcaraz? 16th century. In "Orienteppiche im MIK Berlin", F. Spüler


Undefined Spanish origin. 16th century.

Sources:
(1) Venise et l’Orient. Tissus et tapis à Venise. G. Curatola, pag. 210.
(2) Alfombras Españolas de Alcaraz y Cuenca, siglos XV -XVI. Museo Nacional de Artes Decorativas, pag. 21
(3) Historic Floors. Jane Fawcett.
(4) Carpet art in Islamic Civilization. Ragheb Elsergany.
April 12th, 2011 02:11 PM
Rich Larkin Hi Filiberto,

Of course, the Baluchis did manage to acquire the border.



My opinion is that this and other early Anatolian motives survived into relatively recent time among the Baluch over centuries, reflecting their roots in regions more westerly than their current and recent homes. I don't think one must conclude that weavers of one or two centuries ago simply copied them from neighbors. Whatever the truth of that might be, it is remarkable how persistent are many of the designs you and Pierre have shown in this outstanding series. It seems that little has changed in many of them, perhaps small details. I note in the example I've posted that the calyx has retained its basic shape, including the vertical element in the petals at the top, a feature missing in some iterations.

Rich Larkin

P. S.: Pierre, being slow of mind, I had to puzzle a bit over the end of your recovered inscription. Funneee! The Colonel himself would be proud.
April 12th, 2011 10:24 AM
Filiberto Boncompagni And here it is again, partially visible (Note: I found a better picture and now it's fully visible) in its “unstepped” reciprocal flavor in this 1519 painting of Jacob Cornelisz van Oostsanen, a Northern Netherlandish painter.



Incidentally Peter Stone puts this border among the Caucasian section, Daghestan, and calls it “C-15 Reciprocal Border” (1).
And what we see above it? The classical “Leaf and Calyx” border (C-63 in Stone’s). Exactly the same unchanged design as we still see in much later rugs, especially Caucasian (not sure about Baluch but one never knows ).

Of course there is a close relationship between the “Leaf and Calyx” border and the one of the Batári-Crivelli rug above - I remember Wendel Swan wrote a paper on the subject but I cannot find a trace about it.

There are a few more paintings related to these borders. I think it’s worthwhile to open a new thread about them. I’ll do it later.
Stay tuned. Regards,

Filiberto

(1) Peter F. Stone, Tribal & Village Rugs – The Definitive Guide to Design, Pattern & Motif
April 12th, 2011 08:28 AM
Pierre Galafassi Hi Rich and Filiberto,

A war between Balu-natics and Caucaso-maniacs is not a good place to be caught into.
It is my duty however to deny any inscription in Spanish at the other end as well as any mention of a Western Pakistani tribe. In fact it is in English and partly illegible «.. icial suppl.. o.....tucky fr.....ken.» Not being an expert of early US rugs I must leave the identification of the weaving tribe in Georgia to my betters.

Neutrally yours
Pierre
April 11th, 2011 06:35 PM
Richard Larkin OK Filiberto,

April 11th, 2011 05:53 PM
Filiberto Boncompagni Hi Rich,

No, the other end had the inscription:

Fabricado en España con el diseño baluch

That's why I had to crop the picture.

April 11th, 2011 05:29 PM
Richard Larkin Hi Filiberto,

Ouch!! You really know how to hurt a guy. I was about to leap to the keyboard to tout the one more brick in the wall linking Baluch weavers to the 13th century Seljuk crowd, then I tripped over your deeply cutting "Balu-natic" remark. So, I had to cancel.

Pierre,

Do you happen to know what is at the other end of that Spanish rug? More birds, or maybe an inscription, "Just us chickens?" Have you seen such birds on other Spanish carpets? The the curled tails may require some ornithological research.

Rich Larkin
April 11th, 2011 10:41 AM
Pierre Galafassi Yes Chuck, indeed the universal success enjoyed by this border is amazing:
As proven by its chicken row the rug below was woven in Georgia USA ! Even though some eurocentric experts still attribute it to Spain, 15th century.

April 11th, 2011 08:13 AM
Filiberto Boncompagni Hi Chuck,

Isn’t amazing how borderless a rug border can be? How could it reach a relatively recent Baluch-type bag? Furthermore, that is not a motif commonly used in the region. As a matter of fact, I don’t recall any border like this used in the region.

I’m going to delete your post (1) to avoid the pesky Balu-natic chatter which surely will follow your discovery - and I strongly suggest you to destroy the evidence.

Regards,

Filiberto

(1) Just kidding, of course
April 10th, 2011 01:31 PM
Chuck Wagner Buon Giorno e Bonjour,

....and the stepped version lives on to this day. Or, at least, to the 1930's or so. It is always fascinating - to me - to find that nomadic tribespersons like those of the Sistan ( often considered somewhat isolated from the whole art history scene ) are so well read on the lesser points of the Old Masters:




Chuck Wagner
April 6th, 2011 03:43 PM
Pierre Galafassi Hi all,

There are indeed very few later medallions which could be considered evolutions from the Crivelli star.

One could perhaps argue that the rare 16-sided star medallion below is such a heir, but it is more likely that it is derived from the much more frequent regular octagram, extensively used in rugs attributed to the Mamluk or in so-called star-Ushak carpets for example.


Source: B. Balpinar U. Hirsch, Teppiche, page 199.

In the carpet below, the Crivelli design is barely recognizable and is demoted to the status of secondary motif.

Source: H. Kirchheim, Orient Stars, page 294.
Regards
Pierre
April 5th, 2011 12:41 PM
Filiberto Boncompagni Hi Pierre,

The “Shahanama” border caught my attention years ago when I noticed the similarity with a Filippo Lippi’s fresco (Funeral of St. Stephen” ca.1460 Prato, Duomo). At the time I had prepared this composite image for a post that never materialized.
The image shows the border in Lippi’s fresco in n.1, the Shahnama border in n.2, and two Shirvan borders in 3 and 4 (the latter a Marasali).




Facts to notice:

- there are two flavors of the same border; the stepped one like in this



which I am glad you found and the more linear one, like in the “Armenian Nachivan” above and the two painted examples

- besides the border, the rug in Lippi’s fresco is utterly mysterious.

Regards,

Filiberto
April 5th, 2011 08:46 AM
Pierre Galafassi Hi Filiberto,

The number of extant ‘Crivelli» 15th century rugs is apparently a bit larger than what I thought initially.
With two additional ones below:





The whereabouts of the first one are unknown to me. The latter one is a large fragment, of which a computer reconstitution of the central medallion is shown here, which belongs to the Kirchheim collection (Orient Stars, page 275).

These (painted or extant) Crivelli rugs show an interesting evolution of an animal motif from figurative to abstraction beyond recognition. The departure from naturalistic representation might have been caused, for example, by a stricter (local or temporary) enforcement of Islam’s ban of human and animal motifs.
Another interesting point is the particular type of border of the first rug: A motif which has survived without change over a millenary, since it was already featured in the large carpet of the early fourteenth century miniature below (1330-1340, Il-khanid period, Tabriz school, "The bier of Iskander". Freer Gallery, Smithsonian ) and was still rather frequent in nineteenth century Caucasian rugs.


Best
Pierre
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